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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 4, 2011 5:31pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

uh, not exactly 8-)

we're switching soon to a new video player, and i took out the audio/video tag ability since the new video player automatically takes care of the raw video tag for movies. i switched to a "try our new player" kind of "opt in" link for video pages.

oversight an audio -- was hoping flash would be enough until we could get the new upcoming video player to work for audio, too. stupidly forgot about *audio* for iphones/ipads, though -- my very bad...

thinking...
-tracey, archive staff

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 4, 2011 6:02pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Thanks for the explanation Tracey.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 5, 2011 1:26am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

bah, spent most of day trying to get this to work, i am fail 8-)
will try to come up with something mon/tues or restore prior audio
code that worked...

sorry about that!
-tracey

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Poster: njpg Date: Jun 9, 2011 5:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Although I can stream an entire show as an M3U via iTunes on my laptop, this will not work with my ipod: Quicktime cuts out after about ten minutes of play. Needless to say, when I'm out of the house I've been missing the old system! Particularly with Dead shows, only limited selections are practically available without Flash, which is not available to my ipod. On the old system, my ipod would play a show continuously if I simply clicked the playlist and left the screen on, which was better than my laptop would do. I'm not very tech-savvy; anybody have any suggestions?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 10, 2011 4:43pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

ok, i have updated the player so it should allow a "native" ability
to play our audio (via mp3, and video, via mp4)
for ipad/iphone/ipod devices.

feel free to reply if you find issues -- it may change a bit in the near future, so keep in mind it's still a little bit "beta" for now 8-)

-tracey, staff

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Poster: njpg Date: Jun 10, 2011 7:33pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Yay! It works. Thank you!

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Poster: mdp12 Date: Jul 2, 2011 9:44am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

maybe I am missing something here...I used to be able to simple hit play and the whole show would stream one track after another..not anymore...help???

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jun 5, 2011 4:29am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Thanks for all the effort.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 5, 2011 10:05am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

sure, y'all deserve it 8-)

i think clicking on the M3U should work at least and playout the songs in order for now. at least it did on my (1st gen) iphone (yes i am old skool). however it did not have any seek/scan/repeat control -- just one big long audio stream.

for a concert, at least that's not soooo bad 8-)

--tracey

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Poster: Scottr1966 Date: Jun 5, 2011 7:59pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Thanks Tracey! I'm on an iPad. Your efforts ARE appreciated! M3U works just fine. Thanks for the tip.

Scott

This post was modified by Scottr1966 on 2011-06-06 02:59:51

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 10, 2011 4:45pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

ok, have updated the player so it should allow a "native" ability
to play our audio (via mp3, and video, via mp4)
for ipad/iphone/ipod devices.

feel free to reply if you find issues -- it may change a bit in the near future, so keep in mind it's still a little bit "beta" for now 8-)

-tracey, staff

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Poster: Scottr1966 Date: Jun 11, 2011 5:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Tracey, from iPad, I can stream but I still cannot select individual tracks. Say I wanted to finish a show where I left off, I have no way to resume. Also, when streaming, I am unable to continue browsing. I used to be able to do that while listening to individual tracks. Often, when streaming, the connection will stop. This gives me a conniption because I cannot resume where I left off. I did purchase the app player and it work fine but still unable to brows. My best option is to use the app although it has a tendency to buffer as well has cut out. So if it cuts in the middle of a 15 minute track, I have to start the track over.

Added note: when the track list is long enough, it sits on top of the little scroll buttons.

I realize when are in the "beta" stages, just reporting back to you.

Overall, I love the site!

I hope you have a great day and thanks for all you do!

Scott

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 11, 2011 11:06am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

yah, i found the layout on *actual* iphone (1st gen) an iPad1 to be pretty wonky, too, last night during the commute so will try to track that down and fix best i can today or very soon....
(and that is affecting what can be clicked on, to say, jump to track 5)
-tracey

PS: not sure about the auto-advance failing -- that *should* work, hmm...
PPS: thanks for being so nice and thoughtful in your post, too 8-)

This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2011-06-11 18:06:52

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Poster: Scottr1966 Date: Jun 11, 2011 1:38pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Right on Tracey.

Scott

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 11, 2011 2:30pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

ok, should be fixed up.
BUT with annoying caveat.... 8-(

it took awhile to track down all the detection of player types and pathways to play audio...

about a week ago, i modified our new audio/video player (it's opensource! 8-) to have it "natively" play mp3 audio -- this is because ios (ipad/iphone/ipod) can't play flash, can't play ogg audio natively, but *can* play mp3 audio natively.

however, in testing, for me on iphone (and even simulated "safari saying it is iphone"), there is some strange pathway that ~50% of the time, craps out when trying to load the .mp3.
which stinks, because then it:
- doesn't play the track
- that's it for the player -- stuck there and can't progress
- goes into a tight timing loop (or it's normal loop), checking for progress 1-2 times/sec, always failing since it couldn't load the first time. so, um, watch for that and watch for your battery drain!

sorry about that!
i'm working with the main developer of the new audio/video player to see if we can track this down and fix it -- it's definitely something specific to the player and how it handles mp3s -- this doesn't happen for video (and mp4s) on ios...

--tracey

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Poster: pjantzen42 Date: Jun 21, 2011 6:25pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

I'd like to second Scott - there is no final resolution to software issues. :)

Thank you, Tracey, for your efforts. The iPad interface with IA (at least streaming shows) is amazing. Not only do the player functions interact smoothly with the multitasking interface, but everything works smoothly through an external BT keyboard.

I do have a couple of comment (NOT complaints - that I can listen to Paul Barrere and Fred Tackett in the background while writing this in nothing short of grand).

- on the iPad2, the song list is not scrollable - if the set list is longer than 16 songs (in landscape mode), I cannot see the setlist and navigation is only possible by viewing the text version of the setlist and advancing manually through the setlist;
- The |> (arrow/right caret) indicating current song does not advance
- I cannot yet track the etiology of the problem, however there are issues with repeating of the beginning of the last track when advancing to the next. This may have to do with the horrid hotel network that I am currently using - will update if I have the same problem on a trusted network.
- There is something hidden under (about) track 15 on an iPad in landscape orientation, which sticks about 30 pixels to the left of track 15. I love Magic Easter Eggs, but I cannot figure this one out. :)

Once again, this is an AMAZING implementation - THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

Best,
P

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Sep 27, 2011 4:46pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

if you have a moment, let me know if any better now.
if still an issue on iPad try changing
"www" to "www-tracey" (to try, just for now, my dev box)
to see if *that* fixes things
(although there's a known issue w/ that updated version w.r.t. stopping after 2 things play....)

-tracey

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Poster: Scottr1966 Date: Jun 11, 2011 6:32pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

I forgot to say great job!

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Poster: Scottr1966 Date: Jun 11, 2011 6:19pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Great info Tracey. Sounds like you getting close to a final resolution....or is there no such thing ;-)

Thanks very much for keeping updated.

Yippee it's working!!!

Scott

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Poster: joypie Date: Jun 11, 2012 9:48pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Hi ?Tracey, I've just brought an ipad to show my animated films for promotion to galleries etc, they are all saved on archive. But Ipad doesnt/wont show them, just a blank screen, I found this conversation and wondered if you or anybody else had worked out what t do about this?

All advice greatly appreciated cheers Majena

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 11, 2012 10:01pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

hi there,
the iPads and iPhones show IA videos just fine.
what url is having issues for you?

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Poster: joypie Date: Jun 11, 2012 10:53pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

Hi Tracey, the ipad is not showing all of my older videos which are embedded on separate blogger pages that feature them as artworks. eg none of these

http://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Majena%20Mafe%22%20AND%20%28mediatype%3Amovies%29

for example this video on IA
http://archive.org/details/RedMarsLibrettoForLaurel

though its embedded on this blog (http://red-mars-libretto-for-laurel.blogspot.com.au/)is invisible on the ipad


Is this the only fix???
I just re-downloaded the 'new' Internet Archive embedded code from an old movie and embedded it into my website and it worked... its a hassle to re embed all my movies there are dozens of them...

is there any short cut.

I can play the videos on my ipad when I go to internet archive, but the ones I've embedded into blog sites wont play except the one I've updated ...

Thanks Tracey for your advice cheers Jena

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Jun 13, 2012 3:47pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Streaming change?

yah, iphones and ipads will just plain not play any flash,
so the now older embed codes will never work on iOS 8-(

so updating to the new embed codes is the best option.
thankfully, it is a *lot* simpler code -- once you've settled on video
size and playlist or not, etc. -- you only need to change
a single identifier for each of the embed codes you'd want.